Learning your ‘outs’
Hi,

Does anyone have any useful tips on learning their outs. I currently use the Russ Bray app and on that it tells you your outs, however I’ve recently bought a whiteboard so I can write down my score and try to work out my outs but I wasn’t the best at maths in school and it can slow up my game,
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(03-23-2020, 12:50 AM)Mumbles11 Wrote: Hi,

Does anyone have any useful tips on learning their outs. I currently use the Russ Bray app and on that it tells you your outs, however I’ve recently bought a whiteboard so I can write down my score and try to work out my outs but I wasn’t the best at maths in school and it can slow up my game,


Do it in stages, for example you know 41-60 is single to whatever double u want. After that 61-80 is your treble-double or single-single-double finishes. The way to remember these is if you know that 61 is T15 D8, then 64 is T16 double 8, then 67 is T17 D8 and so on all the way up to 76 which is T20 D8. Same for 62 is T10 D16 and so u know 65 and 68 etc. 63 is T13 D12 so u know 66 and 69 etc. If you’ve only two darts for 61-70 then u know its just single to bull eg 64 is 14-Bull.

81-90 are pretty much all by the same token. (If u miss the treble and hit the single then ur at a single to bull finish). eg 81 is T19 D12 so u know what 84 is, 83 is T17 D16 so u know what 86,89 and 92 are. Exceptions are 82 where its Bull D16 and stuff like 90 where u go 20s first dart in order to ensure at minimum a dart at bull.

If ur struggling to think what the finish is eg for say 91, its an odd number so u need to hit an odd treble, start with T19 and think what that leaves, 34, not a good double to leave so now think T17, that leaves 40 so thats the best option. As long as u have imprinted in ur brain that T20=60 T19=57 T18=54 T17=51 etc and can take those numbers away from numbers like 94 then you’ll pick it up quick. 101-120 just think T20 and then the requisit two dart finish eg 109 you go T20 which leaves 49 so then its single to either 40 or 32. For 121-130 u need to go for a treble where if u hit the single ur left on either 101,104,107 or 110 as those numbers are possible two dart finishes; Treble to bullseye. For example 122, no use going for 20s as single leaves 102=no finish. Same with 19s, where as going 18s the single leaves 104 which is a possible 2 dart finish. For thinking about what the treble leaves, you could try do 122-54 in your head but its a pain, just take away 60 and then add 6. So 122-60= 62, add 6 = 68, and u know that 68 with two darts is 18 Bull. For 132 and 135 u want to start on bull as the 25 leaves a two dart finish. For the rest of the finishes above 130, if u really dont have much of a clue, just think what does T20 first dart leave and then u know the requisite two dart finish. For example 149, 60 leaves 89 which u know is T19 D16 therefore 149 is T20-T19-D16. For some finishes theres maybe better ways like for 131 for example some people like to start on T17 as that leaves 80 so they can go tops tops, and by same token 134, 137. For 139 most will start on T19 to get the 9 off. For the really high finishes, 170,167,164,161,160,158 are all either treble treble bull or for 160 and 158 its treble treble double. Everything inbetween those finishes are impossible, but everything 158 and below are all possible.

Hope this helps, moral of the story is that you don’t have to memorise a million different finishes, cus in actual fact they all kinda tie in with eachother.

Once you know you’re finishes really well u can start thinking about things like what happens if i miss either side of the single. For example on 104 the best way is T16-16-D20 as if u hit either an 8 or a 7 ur still on a treble to double finish. If u go for 20s and hit a 5 or a 1 then you are screwed as 99=no 2 dart finish and likewise with 103.

Darts players arent mathematicians, they just do all the finishes so many times that its second nature to know what to go for even if they miss


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Well explained.  I might add, a chart on the wall helps when starting out.  Eventually, you'll never use it.
And there's a difference between counting and marking.  I think marking helps with your counting, but it's a different skill set to master.  Confused  

cheers...
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Wow! Thank you so much Reddog153! That’s really helpful and I will start practising this!
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(03-23-2020, 01:25 AM)reddog153 Wrote: Once you know you’re finishes really well u can start thinking about things like what happens if i miss either side of the single. For example on 104 the best way is T16-16-D20 as if u hit either an 8 or a 7 ur still on a treble to double finish. If u go for 20s and hit a 5 or a 1 then you are screwed as 99=no 2 dart finish and likewise with 103.

Great post!

This is a nice chart for those exceptions etc. https://www.dartbase.com/howtheprosdoit.htm
Game on since Jan 2020

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Board: Gladiator II
Maximums: 2 (02.03.20) (21.03.20)
Ton plus finishes:  126 [S19-T19-Bull] (23.01.2020) – 113 [D19-T17-D12] (15.03.2020)
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(03-23-2020, 03:19 PM)southpaw_8585 Wrote:
(03-23-2020, 01:25 AM)reddog153 Wrote: Once you know you’re finishes really well u can start thinking about things like what happens if i miss either side of the single. For example on 104 the best way is T16-16-D20 as if u hit either an 8 or a 7 ur still on a treble to double finish. If u go for 20s and hit a 5 or a 1 then you are screwed as 99=no 2 dart finish and likewise with 103.

Great post!

This is a nice chart for those exceptions etc. https://www.dartbase.com/howtheprosdoit.htm
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How the Pros Do It is a great read... very helpful in so many ways... I wish I knew who is Ken Berman, anyone know?
Levonster  Out! 
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Agree - How the Pros do It = excellent!
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+1 for the OP. Great explanation!
Jason S - Middle of USA - South Dakota

Darts: Over 30 sets - Currently Using Dynasty A-Flow Black Line Kiyama 19.56g
Board: Target Nexus
Highest Out: 170
Best Leg: 12 Darts (Many shots at a 10 darter - Arghhh)
2020 Maximums: Goal set at 200 - Goal of 200 reached on 3/29/20 - Should've set higher goal.  Blush
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